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		<title>By: Writer Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:  Do you think the two will ever merge?  Do you think computers will become more readable, for lack of a better word.  I hear the Kindle&#039;s pretty cool as well, but do you think that maybe it&#039;s just the beginning of something we have not yet thought of?

Peter:  Maybe my favorite comment in the thread, Peter.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:  Do you think the two will ever merge?  Do you think computers will become more readable, for lack of a better word.  I hear the Kindle&#8217;s pretty cool as well, but do you think that maybe it&#8217;s just the beginning of something we have not yet thought of?</p>
<p>Peter:  Maybe my favorite comment in the thread, Peter.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter I</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest that its all under the banner of Progress. We will never move forward if we stand still , but its always a comforting to take a step backwards and regard that which is stylistically reassuring  and of intrinsic value.  Music downloads give us the same melody and lyrics - but I like to put the original vinyl  LP on every now and then.  As I sit at my PC in my Ikea desk chair I can see my Eames Design Classic chair out of the corner of my eye - it makes me smile. I  love being able to take a photo and email it to a friend 3000 miles away in seconds, but i still enjoy the feel and satisfaction of handling a 70s  Nikon Nikkormat . Lets move forward and embrace technological advances , but lets also appreciate their beginnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest that its all under the banner of Progress. We will never move forward if we stand still , but its always a comforting to take a step backwards and regard that which is stylistically reassuring  and of intrinsic value.  Music downloads give us the same melody and lyrics &#8211; but I like to put the original vinyl  LP on every now and then.  As I sit at my PC in my Ikea desk chair I can see my Eames Design Classic chair out of the corner of my eye &#8211; it makes me smile. I  love being able to take a photo and email it to a friend 3000 miles away in seconds, but i still enjoy the feel and satisfaction of handling a 70s  Nikon Nikkormat . Lets move forward and embrace technological advances , but lets also appreciate their beginnings.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger Dad</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading online is difficult to do comfortably, I find. With a book, you can lay on your bed, sit in any room, sit in a park or cafe, sit on the toilet. Can&#039;t do that with the computer, well, not with mine, anyway.

There is also the way we use computers to consider. We are used to BROWSING, not necessarily reading. We surf the web with 20 windows open, CTRL Tab jumping from one to another. When you are used to using a medium one way, the habit carries over to sites rich with text.

Then of course, reading on a screen can be tiresome and an eye strain. I&#039;d love to get a Kindle and try that out, it seems to offer the best of both worlds, but I&#039;ll have to wait till its in my price range.

Very thought provoking post, Sean.
And oh yeah, a VERY subtle diaper reference :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading online is difficult to do comfortably, I find. With a book, you can lay on your bed, sit in any room, sit in a park or cafe, sit on the toilet. Can&#8217;t do that with the computer, well, not with mine, anyway.</p>
<p>There is also the way we use computers to consider. We are used to BROWSING, not necessarily reading. We surf the web with 20 windows open, CTRL Tab jumping from one to another. When you are used to using a medium one way, the habit carries over to sites rich with text.</p>
<p>Then of course, reading on a screen can be tiresome and an eye strain. I&#8217;d love to get a Kindle and try that out, it seems to offer the best of both worlds, but I&#8217;ll have to wait till its in my price range.</p>
<p>Very thought provoking post, Sean.<br />
And oh yeah, a VERY subtle diaper reference :)</p>
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		<title>By: Writer Dad</title>
		<link>http://writerdad.com/blogging/reading-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4385</link>
		<dc:creator>Writer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alik:  That&#039;s awesome to hear, Alik.  I&#039;m glad the reverse has been true for you.

Kwek:  I think it&#039;s infinitely more comfortable to read a book, just not nearly as convenient (for me right now).  My eyes are never as tired.

Tammy:  No doubt, it is all about balance.

Maya:  Thanks for telling me about growing up, Maya.  That&#039;s really interesting.  When I was little, my parents had a flower shop next to a bookstore.  I used to spend entire afternoons in the bookstore getting lost in words.  I&#039;d probably be a different person today without such easy access.

Ruth:  That&#039;s true, Ruth.  Successful blogging calls for reading the material of others, and that is most often morsels rather than meals (well said).  I&#039;ve been trying to be better, and am halfway through my third book of the year, so I think I&#039;m doing well.

Bamboo:  You&#039;re awesome, Bamboo.  Hats off.  i&#039;ve started following far less blogs myself because, I too, want to start absorbing every word rather than simply allowing them to fall in front of my eyes.

Lisa:  I couldn&#039;t agree more.  It&#039;s sad with the amount of quality literature available, we&#039;re still fixed on the same old same old.  I love the classics, but if I had been exposed to only them, I wouldn&#039;t ever have been the reader, or the writer, that i am today.

Randi:  Very true.  Books are far more tangible than online text is.  For now.  I can only imagine what&#039;s just past the furthest horizon we can see, but I have a feeling they&#039;ll find a way to add a more tactile experience to online reading.

Patricia:  Sigh.  The Kindle never worked out, but I&#039;m looking forward to maybe getting one by the holidays this year.  Even at its best, I don&#039;t think the technology&#039;s there yet, but I think it will be soon.

Kristin:  I&#039;d never heard Chuck say that, but I love it!  It&#039;s true to the core.  I have those two types of reading myself.   I never curl up with my laptop.  I would call myself a sit back writer on a sit forward writing device as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alik:  That&#8217;s awesome to hear, Alik.  I&#8217;m glad the reverse has been true for you.</p>
<p>Kwek:  I think it&#8217;s infinitely more comfortable to read a book, just not nearly as convenient (for me right now).  My eyes are never as tired.</p>
<p>Tammy:  No doubt, it is all about balance.</p>
<p>Maya:  Thanks for telling me about growing up, Maya.  That&#8217;s really interesting.  When I was little, my parents had a flower shop next to a bookstore.  I used to spend entire afternoons in the bookstore getting lost in words.  I&#8217;d probably be a different person today without such easy access.</p>
<p>Ruth:  That&#8217;s true, Ruth.  Successful blogging calls for reading the material of others, and that is most often morsels rather than meals (well said).  I&#8217;ve been trying to be better, and am halfway through my third book of the year, so I think I&#8217;m doing well.</p>
<p>Bamboo:  You&#8217;re awesome, Bamboo.  Hats off.  i&#8217;ve started following far less blogs myself because, I too, want to start absorbing every word rather than simply allowing them to fall in front of my eyes.</p>
<p>Lisa:  I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  It&#8217;s sad with the amount of quality literature available, we&#8217;re still fixed on the same old same old.  I love the classics, but if I had been exposed to only them, I wouldn&#8217;t ever have been the reader, or the writer, that i am today.</p>
<p>Randi:  Very true.  Books are far more tangible than online text is.  For now.  I can only imagine what&#8217;s just past the furthest horizon we can see, but I have a feeling they&#8217;ll find a way to add a more tactile experience to online reading.</p>
<p>Patricia:  Sigh.  The Kindle never worked out, but I&#8217;m looking forward to maybe getting one by the holidays this year.  Even at its best, I don&#8217;t think the technology&#8217;s there yet, but I think it will be soon.</p>
<p>Kristin:  I&#8217;d never heard Chuck say that, but I love it!  It&#8217;s true to the core.  I have those two types of reading myself.   I never curl up with my laptop.  I would call myself a sit back writer on a sit forward writing device as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin T. (@kt_writes)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin T. (@kt_writes)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m really struggling with this dichotomy myself, both as a reader and a writer. Chuck Westbrook refers to two types of writing: &quot;sit forward writing&quot; and &quot;sit back writing.&quot; The first is the kind you skim for information, usually on your computer, while sitting alert in a task chair. The second is the kind you savor and lose yourself in—you have to be physically comfortable and not distracted by the clock or the next task.

Of course, websites are the classic &quot;sit forward&quot; medium, while print is the classic  &quot;sit back&quot; one. For a long time I resisted starting a blog for this very reason: my content didn&#039;t seem to fit the form. But here I am now, 100+ posts later—a &quot;sit back&quot; writer relying on a &quot;sit forward&quot; delivery device. Sigh. It seems like the two will gradually become more and more compatible—they have to, don&#039;t they?—but sometimes it&#039;s hard to imagine.

P.S. Deep down, I&#039;m still a book person. I love to read them, I long to write them, and there&#039;s nothing more satisfying than seeing my three girls devour one book after another, reminding me of my own childhood.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kristin T. (@kt_writes)&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.halfwaytonormal.com/?p=247&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A magic morning (and a realistic outlook)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m really struggling with this dichotomy myself, both as a reader and a writer. Chuck Westbrook refers to two types of writing: &#8220;sit forward writing&#8221; and &#8220;sit back writing.&#8221; The first is the kind you skim for information, usually on your computer, while sitting alert in a task chair. The second is the kind you savor and lose yourself in—you have to be physically comfortable and not distracted by the clock or the next task.</p>
<p>Of course, websites are the classic &#8220;sit forward&#8221; medium, while print is the classic  &#8220;sit back&#8221; one. For a long time I resisted starting a blog for this very reason: my content didn&#8217;t seem to fit the form. But here I am now, 100+ posts later—a &#8220;sit back&#8221; writer relying on a &#8220;sit forward&#8221; delivery device. Sigh. It seems like the two will gradually become more and more compatible—they have to, don&#8217;t they?—but sometimes it&#8217;s hard to imagine.</p>
<p>P.S. Deep down, I&#8217;m still a book person. I love to read them, I long to write them, and there&#8217;s nothing more satisfying than seeing my three girls devour one book after another, reminding me of my own childhood.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Kristin T. (@kt_writes)&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://www.halfwaytonormal.com/?p=247" rel="nofollow">A magic morning (and a realistic outlook)</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love writing and reading.  I do not scan blogs or books (although the last 900 page novel I read I got very tired of the sexual descriptions and thought they interrupted the flow of the story - often)  I read every word and thus I don&#039;t attempt to read 50 blogs a day, but only all that I can do in my two hours allotted to reading and commenting.

I read about 2 books a week besides blogs - one technical or text and one novel or poetry, short story compilation.  I have discovered I find a richness of the word play and vocabulary stimulates my mind.  I like the way my mind becomes more creative and playful with a book.

I am amazed after 5 months of owning a Kindle, I prefer it to other books and it&#039;s versatility and it is much easier on my eyes too.  Text and story both fix on there.  I don&#039;t miss the smell of books at all - or the dust and care they must have.

Reading a book gives my thinking mind muscles more exercise  - I savor and reread a page to guess secondary meaning or suggestion.

My Mother stopped teaching 1st grade when children refused to learn to read face clocks - I have a digital watch!  I can tell time!  Now we know that they can not truly understand time and space ratio without those old clocks to read - we must make it a game on the DS player and bribe them to learn.

I think the brain needs to read books....

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Patricia&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/01/pooh-patrol/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pooh Patrol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love writing and reading.  I do not scan blogs or books (although the last 900 page novel I read I got very tired of the sexual descriptions and thought they interrupted the flow of the story &#8211; often)  I read every word and thus I don&#8217;t attempt to read 50 blogs a day, but only all that I can do in my two hours allotted to reading and commenting.</p>
<p>I read about 2 books a week besides blogs &#8211; one technical or text and one novel or poetry, short story compilation.  I have discovered I find a richness of the word play and vocabulary stimulates my mind.  I like the way my mind becomes more creative and playful with a book.</p>
<p>I am amazed after 5 months of owning a Kindle, I prefer it to other books and it&#8217;s versatility and it is much easier on my eyes too.  Text and story both fix on there.  I don&#8217;t miss the smell of books at all &#8211; or the dust and care they must have.</p>
<p>Reading a book gives my thinking mind muscles more exercise  &#8211; I savor and reread a page to guess secondary meaning or suggestion.</p>
<p>My Mother stopped teaching 1st grade when children refused to learn to read face clocks &#8211; I have a digital watch!  I can tell time!  Now we know that they can not truly understand time and space ratio without those old clocks to read &#8211; we must make it a game on the DS player and bribe them to learn.</p>
<p>I think the brain needs to read books&#8230;.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Patricia&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/01/pooh-patrol/" rel="nofollow">Pooh Patrol</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Randi</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Robin...

I hope nothing will ever replace the printed book.  The subtle scent of a bookstore or library makes me as happy as a hippie in a head shop---pure Nirvana!

The tactile euphoria comes into play too...the feel of thick paper under my fingertips, running my hand back and forth in a caress as I read an especially well-written phrase, allowing a long fingernail to trace an engraved title...my monitor just does not evoke the same sensuality.

As Robin said, we feel as if books are our friends, but also books for me can symbolize my friends.  I can open any number of books on my shelves and find an inscription from a loved one---someone who saw a book in a store, or at a yard sale, or in his own library---and was reminded of me.  It carries more love weight with me than an email from those same friends saying, &quot;Follow this link.&quot;

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Randi&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://foreignquang.blogspot.com/2009/01/dissin-aretha.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dissin&#039; Aretha&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Robin&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope nothing will ever replace the printed book.  The subtle scent of a bookstore or library makes me as happy as a hippie in a head shop&#8212;pure Nirvana!</p>
<p>The tactile euphoria comes into play too&#8230;the feel of thick paper under my fingertips, running my hand back and forth in a caress as I read an especially well-written phrase, allowing a long fingernail to trace an engraved title&#8230;my monitor just does not evoke the same sensuality.</p>
<p>As Robin said, we feel as if books are our friends, but also books for me can symbolize my friends.  I can open any number of books on my shelves and find an inscription from a loved one&#8212;someone who saw a book in a store, or at a yard sale, or in his own library&#8212;and was reminded of me.  It carries more love weight with me than an email from those same friends saying, &#8220;Follow this link.&#8221;</p>
<p><abbr><em>Randi&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://foreignquang.blogspot.com/2009/01/dissin-aretha.html" rel="nofollow">Dissin&#8217; Aretha</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: LisaNewton</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree.  In fact, I tutor two 10th grade boys in reading and writing, and I really try to find books they will enjoy.  I so want them to really enjoy reading.  Most of the required reading just doesn&#039;t cut it.  Oh, I love some of the &quot;classics&quot; but new classics are being written now, and it&#039;s too bad some schools aren&#039;t embrassing them.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;LisaNewton&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TravelinLocal/~3/6--I2fX8OoM/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Treasured Sculpture Garden Gem at UCLA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree.  In fact, I tutor two 10th grade boys in reading and writing, and I really try to find books they will enjoy.  I so want them to really enjoy reading.  Most of the required reading just doesn&#8217;t cut it.  Oh, I love some of the &#8220;classics&#8221; but new classics are being written now, and it&#8217;s too bad some schools aren&#8217;t embrassing them.</p>
<p><abbr><em>LisaNewton&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TravelinLocal/~3/6--I2fX8OoM/" rel="nofollow">The Treasured Sculpture Garden Gem at UCLA</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Bamboo Forest - PunIntended</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll also add... nothing beats a book. Nothing.

That being said... it&#039;s fun to enjoy both books and blogs. Do both. Enjoy.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bamboo Forest - PunIntended&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://punintended.com/blog/clowns-are-downright-creepy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clowns are Downright Creepy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll also add&#8230; nothing beats a book. Nothing.</p>
<p>That being said&#8230; it&#8217;s fun to enjoy both books and blogs. Do both. Enjoy.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Bamboo Forest &#8211; PunIntended&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://punintended.com/blog/clowns-are-downright-creepy/" rel="nofollow">Clowns are Downright Creepy</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Bamboo Forest - PunIntended</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bamboo Forest - PunIntended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reading online is like racing home during rush hour.&quot;

I generally don&#039;t follow this model. And here is how I overcome this trap. At least to me... it is a trap.

#1 I subscribe to as few blogs as possible. Only the ones that I feel are important for me to do so. Secondly, among these blogs... there are some that I opt not to read every post. I decide based on the title and maybe the first few lines.

I think the racing to finish you speak of is going to be much more prevalent among people who read blog entry after blog entry after blog entry. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with that. Not at all. Particularly if you want to make as many comments as possible.

But if you cut down on the blogs you read, you can read them with more care. That&#039;s what I try to do.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bamboo Forest - PunIntended&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://punintended.com/blog/clowns-are-downright-creepy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clowns are Downright Creepy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reading online is like racing home during rush hour.&#8221;</p>
<p>I generally don&#8217;t follow this model. And here is how I overcome this trap. At least to me&#8230; it is a trap.</p>
<p>#1 I subscribe to as few blogs as possible. Only the ones that I feel are important for me to do so. Secondly, among these blogs&#8230; there are some that I opt not to read every post. I decide based on the title and maybe the first few lines.</p>
<p>I think the racing to finish you speak of is going to be much more prevalent among people who read blog entry after blog entry after blog entry. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with that. Not at all. Particularly if you want to make as many comments as possible.</p>
<p>But if you cut down on the blogs you read, you can read them with more care. That&#8217;s what I try to do.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Bamboo Forest &#8211; PunIntended&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://punintended.com/blog/clowns-are-downright-creepy/" rel="nofollow">Clowns are Downright Creepy</a></em></abbr></p>
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