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		<title>By: Hopeful</title>
		<link>http://writerdad.com/etcetera/protecting-our-children-from-narcissists/comment-page-1/#comment-29262</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopeful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, keep in mind that it is possible for narcissists to travel in groups, once again I hate to point out that Hitler and the Nazi party were extreme malignant narcissists, so yes you can have a massive amount of people that are narcissistic, it is not impossible.  Erich Fromm first mention group narcissism. I agree that you cannot generalize, it takes a very well trained, and I mean on the profiler level do identify a real malignant narcissist. Some people term it as the inability to form long lasting relationships, this is not so, Hitler had a long term relationship with Eva, was a real part of the Nazi regime. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  The really sad part is that you have junior psychologists and wanna-be psychologists, who have had no life experience with true narcissists - trying to diagnose people who may not really be a narcissist at all. I believe the experts when they say, a true malignant narcissist cannot be captured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, keep in mind that it is possible for narcissists to travel in groups, once again I hate to point out that Hitler and the Nazi party were extreme malignant narcissists, so yes you can have a massive amount of people that are narcissistic, it is not impossible.  Erich Fromm first mention group narcissism. I agree that you cannot generalize, it takes a very well trained, and I mean on the profiler level do identify a real malignant narcissist. Some people term it as the inability to form long lasting relationships, this is not so, Hitler had a long term relationship with Eva, was a real part of the Nazi regime. </p>
<p>  The really sad part is that you have junior psychologists and wanna-be psychologists, who have had no life experience with true narcissists &#8211; trying to diagnose people who may not really be a narcissist at all. I believe the experts when they say, a true malignant narcissist cannot be captured.</p>
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		<title>By: Hopeful</title>
		<link>http://writerdad.com/etcetera/protecting-our-children-from-narcissists/comment-page-1/#comment-29263</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopeful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Narcissists are extremely hard to read, the depth of the insanity is only apparent to those closest to them, it is not apparent to just anyone, a malignant narcissist isn&#039;t detectable sometimes even by the most trained of psychologists, you have to be very close to them. Simple charm and grandiose ideas doesn&#039;t describe the degree to which these folks cross over the line into real insanity. There is a neuron in the brain somewhere that can tell us why these folks don&#039;t function right, I would just like to know why they haven&#039;t located that neuron just yet, I mean look how long ago Hitler happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Narcissists are extremely hard to read, the depth of the insanity is only apparent to those closest to them, it is not apparent to just anyone, a malignant narcissist isn&#39;t detectable sometimes even by the most trained of psychologists, you have to be very close to them. Simple charm and grandiose ideas doesn&#39;t describe the degree to which these folks cross over the line into real insanity. There is a neuron in the brain somewhere that can tell us why these folks don&#39;t function right, I would just like to know why they haven&#39;t located that neuron just yet, I mean look how long ago Hitler happened.</p>
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		<title>By: cindyplatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindyplatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an educator and a mother I felt this information gave me a few aha moments.  I appreciate in the e-book the preface:   &quot;draw you own conclusions&quot; based on your experiences and what you have observed.  I feel keeping it all in perspective there is an awareness that can be gained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an educator and a mother I felt this information gave me a few aha moments.  I appreciate in the e-book the preface:   &#8220;draw you own conclusions&#8221; based on your experiences and what you have observed.  I feel keeping it all in perspective there is an awareness that can be gained.</p>
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		<title>By: writerdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>writerdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can have too few people in the garden, though! That&#039;s when stuff just withers and dies. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can have too few people in the garden, though! That&#39;s when stuff just withers and dies. :(</p>
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		<title>By: The JackB</title>
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		<dc:creator>The JackB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can never have too many people in the garden, unless of course they are standing on your rose bushes. I hate when that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can never have too many people in the garden, unless of course they are standing on your rose bushes. I hate when that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: WelshScribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>WelshScribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh but Sean, us narcissists must be ignored. Can&#039;t feed us what we want ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh but Sean, us narcissists must be ignored. Can&#39;t feed us what we want ;)</p>
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		<title>By: writerdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>writerdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that there are seeds for some good conversation, debate and dialogue here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But we need more people in the garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that there are seeds for some good conversation, debate and dialogue here.</p>
<p>But we need more people in the garden.</p>
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		<title>By: menwithpens</title>
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		<dc:creator>menwithpens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More of this bothers me, and I really feel quite strongly about this, so I&#039;m going to write my thoughts out. I think I may have scared away the authors, but I really believe that this merits some calm discussion and polite debate. Anyways, onwards.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are not only the authors that who were purportedly involved with narcissists but some personal stories of other people within the ebook as well.  While I don&#039;t discredit anyone&#039;s personal experience, because that is their perceptions of events and thus valid, the math and statistics just aren&#039;t supporting this enough for me to feel comfortable.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s nearly impossible that so many people (I&#039;m assuming throughout the United States) not only had relationships with narcissists, but furthermore managed to meet each other coincidentally. Could it happen? Sure – but the odds are severely against it. There are a lot of people in the States, and again, only about 1% have a true narcissist disorder.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also a question I have – were any of the purported narcissists medically diagnosed with the disorder? Again, maybe they were, and that&#039;s fine, but I&#039;m really incredulous at how many people suddenly seem to be coming out. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s really important, when exploring psychological issues, to remember that there&#039;s a huge difference between an actual medical issue and just someone who behaves badly. Plenty of people walk around saying, &quot;Oh, I have ADD,&quot; or, &quot;I must have Alzheimer&#039;s,&quot; but that doesn&#039;t make it a reality. We all have forgetful moments or times where we can&#039;t follow a list or periods where we show some ego, but that doesn&#039;t point to psychological issues. Nor does getting on the bandwagon and bringing everyone along help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Educate, yes, but where in the ebook does it say, &quot;This is really not a common disorder,&quot; or, &quot;Most people are not narcissists.&quot; It doesn&#039;t. This concerns me. By reading something generalized, implicative and assumptive, we can all point to people in our lives and suddenly label them with a diagnosis to explain their behaviour (or even worse, our own behaviour!) – when we are in no way qualified to do so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m also wondering what the ultimate goal of giving away this free ebook might be. Is there some kind of service coming afterwards and it&#039;s a lead-in? Is it just a nice (albeit harmful, I feel) gesture for the world?  Very rarely do people invest their time and money to give something away for free and without some other plan in behind it. What&#039;s the motive?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll go lay off the coffee now and stop rambling on – clearly I&#039;ve had more than my fair share!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More of this bothers me, and I really feel quite strongly about this, so I&#39;m going to write my thoughts out. I think I may have scared away the authors, but I really believe that this merits some calm discussion and polite debate. Anyways, onwards.</p>
<p>There are not only the authors that who were purportedly involved with narcissists but some personal stories of other people within the ebook as well.  While I don&#39;t discredit anyone&#39;s personal experience, because that is their perceptions of events and thus valid, the math and statistics just aren&#39;t supporting this enough for me to feel comfortable.  </p>
<p>It&#39;s nearly impossible that so many people (I&#39;m assuming throughout the United States) not only had relationships with narcissists, but furthermore managed to meet each other coincidentally. Could it happen? Sure – but the odds are severely against it. There are a lot of people in the States, and again, only about 1% have a true narcissist disorder.</p>
<p>Also a question I have – were any of the purported narcissists medically diagnosed with the disorder? Again, maybe they were, and that&#39;s fine, but I&#39;m really incredulous at how many people suddenly seem to be coming out. </p>
<p>It&#39;s really important, when exploring psychological issues, to remember that there&#39;s a huge difference between an actual medical issue and just someone who behaves badly. Plenty of people walk around saying, &#8220;Oh, I have ADD,&#8221; or, &#8220;I must have Alzheimer&#39;s,&#8221; but that doesn&#39;t make it a reality. We all have forgetful moments or times where we can&#39;t follow a list or periods where we show some ego, but that doesn&#39;t point to psychological issues. Nor does getting on the bandwagon and bringing everyone along help.</p>
<p>Educate, yes, but where in the ebook does it say, &#8220;This is really not a common disorder,&#8221; or, &#8220;Most people are not narcissists.&#8221; It doesn&#39;t. This concerns me. By reading something generalized, implicative and assumptive, we can all point to people in our lives and suddenly label them with a diagnosis to explain their behaviour (or even worse, our own behaviour!) – when we are in no way qualified to do so.</p>
<p>I&#39;m also wondering what the ultimate goal of giving away this free ebook might be. Is there some kind of service coming afterwards and it&#39;s a lead-in? Is it just a nice (albeit harmful, I feel) gesture for the world?  Very rarely do people invest their time and money to give something away for free and without some other plan in behind it. What&#39;s the motive?</p>
<p>I&#39;ll go lay off the coffee now and stop rambling on – clearly I&#39;ve had more than my fair share!</p>
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		<title>By: janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to read dialogue between folk I respect. To add another perspective here, I&#039;d just like to say I haven&#039;t read the ebook because I&#039;ve already read Lori&#039;s posts about Dark Hearts, as she called them. I enjoyed them; they made me think about and examine behavioural &lt;i&gt;patterns&lt;/i&gt; - not just occasional behaviours - in myself and others. I also enjoyed Marc&#039;s black belt insights and gentle wisdom in his Daily Aikido blog. What both of these black belt friends of mine have in common is a desire to pass on aspects of the aware, alert, wise and intuitive mindsets that keep us out of danger in the first place, or calm enough to cope and survive if we&#039;re faced with threatening people and situations. Reading these comments today made me smile; I&#039;m proud to have friends who care enough about the welfare of strangers to want to make a difference, and who are brave enough to speak up for what they believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to read dialogue between folk I respect. To add another perspective here, I&#39;d just like to say I haven&#39;t read the ebook because I&#39;ve already read Lori&#39;s posts about Dark Hearts, as she called them. I enjoyed them; they made me think about and examine behavioural <i>patterns</i> &#8211; not just occasional behaviours &#8211; in myself and others. I also enjoyed Marc&#39;s black belt insights and gentle wisdom in his Daily Aikido blog. What both of these black belt friends of mine have in common is a desire to pass on aspects of the aware, alert, wise and intuitive mindsets that keep us out of danger in the first place, or calm enough to cope and survive if we&#39;re faced with threatening people and situations. Reading these comments today made me smile; I&#39;m proud to have friends who care enough about the welfare of strangers to want to make a difference, and who are brave enough to speak up for what they believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: WelshScribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>WelshScribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another generalisation Lori.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about the statistic that Narcissistic Personality Disorder only affects around 1% of the general population?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yet, according to your book, I am a narcissist because I have done *everything* you said a narcissist does in an argument with friends, family and even my fiancée.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, my friends, family and even my fiancée has done the *exact* same thing to me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For every person that you are helping, that you are empowering, how many are you harming? How many of those are false positives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another generalisation Lori.</p>
<p>What about the statistic that Narcissistic Personality Disorder only affects around 1% of the general population?</p>
<p>Yet, according to your book, I am a narcissist because I have done *everything* you said a narcissist does in an argument with friends, family and even my fiancée.</p>
<p>However, my friends, family and even my fiancée has done the *exact* same thing to me.</p>
<p>For every person that you are helping, that you are empowering, how many are you harming? How many of those are false positives?</p>
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